Discussion with southwest bioregional herbalist, forager, and author John Slattery. In this episode John offers a message of healing, hope, connection, and personal empowerment in the midst of the fog caused by the COVID-19 virus. John and I touch on the current social fallout from the recent events including the fear that is being spread and we discuss ways to stand in our own power in light of the fear and uncertainty. John talks about the power of the plants as allies and healers, even when not ingested or used in conventional herbal applications. John discusses our ability to approach the natural world and the plants directly to receive direction, guidance, and healing and how this can prepare and strengthen us for times such as these. He also talks about the idea of getting to the heart of the matter and not becoming lost in nuance when it comes to healing and personal connection. Finally, John relays his experience with a few specific herbs that he has found to be of particular benefit for treating the Coronavirus.